Wednesday, June 30, 2010
BREAKING NEWS: Da Queen Has Been Drop-Kicked To Da Curb
What political breakup is right now all da buzz????
(A) Al & Tipper Gore
(B) John & Elizabeth Edwards
(C) That wacky South Carolina governor and his Argentina mistress
(D) Manalapan's Andy Boy and Da Queen
For da last four years, there's been what some have called an "unholy" alliance between two people who were once mortal enemies. Some have even said that when side by side, you sometimes couldn't even tell where da Queen began and Andy Boy ended, and that da Democrat Queen and one-time alleged Manalapan and/or Freehold resident & alleged Republican/and or Democrat Andy Boy were on da same political party. In 2007 and 2008, Democrat da Queen was more buddy-buddy with Andy Boy than her own former Democratic running mate, Mr. Anthony Gennaro. And Andy Boy was more chummy with da Queen than his own GOP'ers da-late Joltin Joe and Susan Cohen and GOP'er proud footsoldiers Butch and Stevie J.
However, like many rock-solid relationships, it is starting to appear that money and power is getting between da once close Queen and her Andy Boy.
To understand more, you have to follow da bouncing ball of "Duh":
ISSUE 1: In 2005 and 2006, GOP'er Joltin Joe and then-GOP'er Andy Boy crafted town budgets in Manalapan that actually cut taxes during prosperous economic times. Those budgets used a good amount of budget surplus and were fiercely fought by none other than da Queen, who claimed those budgets were "reckless" among other things. She also had on her side a number of Democratic supporters, including a former mayor known for being known to carry both a large girth and larger shovel.
ISSUE 2: In 2007 and 2008, after tax cuts for two years in a row and despite continued home building in Manalapan and general prosperity, Manalapan taxpayers were backhanded with two amazingly large municipal tax increases - SOME OF DA LARGST IN TOWN HISTORY - both voted for and approved by da Queen, as well as da guy who won his election in 2004 saying he'd lower taxes - Andy Boy.
ISSUE 3: In 2009, when da Queen decided to run for da biggest office she'd ever run for, she pushed for and held taxes flat -- ironically, using da very same formula of using budget surplus to lower da bottom line that she was vehemently against in 2005 and 2006! Voting with her was Andy Boy.
ISSUE 4: Now, we're in 2010, and for da 2nd year in a row, da Manalapan Township Committee is holding taxes flat. However, this time, it's coming with a price - and for da Queen, an even bigger price.
This year, unlike da others, da town faces severe money troubles, and maybe and likely worse for 2011. For da first time, da Township committee ordered 10-day furloughs for a large number of town employees, and froze salaries for others, and demanded and received givebacks from da unions - and even approved to not hire police officers despite a growing population. Despite all of this, and a major cut to education that will cause teacher firings, they still had to grab millions of $$$$$$$ from da budget surplus to keep taxes flat - and that's $$$$$ that will have to be replenished.
Now, here's da problem ---
Duh #1: Da tax burden on Manalapan residents is about $19 million of da $32 million budget, a ratio already much higher than other Monmouth and Middlesex County towns. That $19 million would have been over $20 million, if not for da $1.4 million in cuts made to da Manalapan-Englishtown school system. That money was put directly into da Manalapan Township budget to cut da tax burden on Manalapan taxpayers - replacing da $1.4 million shortfall which would have raised taxes (a one-time quick fix).
Duh #2: Da Manalapan budget for years was helped out by building fees and new home construction fees and new taxes from that construction. With da housing bust busting Manalapan building, da town will get much less from builders in Manalapan who aren't building, meaning more tax burden for you da taxpayer.
Duh #3: For years, led by a certain powerful few who didn't want it in their backyard, da Village at Route 33 has been blocked. It was blocked by da Queen who used it to win an election. It was blocked by Andy Boy who got back in da good graces of GOP'ers and got da necessary support to also win an election, and get backing for another one despite a well-documented "limo ride" with a developer that da Queen herself touted during an election year. In a town with one of da very worst business ratable-ratios in da entire state, leaving da tax burden on Manalapan land owners, what could have been da biggest single tax boom for Manalapan residents has been blocked at every turn --- that is --- until now. Those who have been blocking da Village are now backing da must-have Route 33 access.
Promises made - Promises broken.
And, by da way --- Who was da "Wyle-E-Coyote-Super-Genious" who OK'd a traffic study by Planning Board engineers CME Associates -- which obviously cost tens of thousands of taxpayer $$$$$$$$?????? FYI - their "study" found that Route 33 access to da Village would most definitely and miraculously and significantly lessen da traffic impact on Millhurst Road! We could have found a 4 year old who could have figured that one out - and it would have probably cost taxpayers a pack of chewing gum!
What's next - paying a company that gives political donations $100,000 to find out how many licks it takes to polish off a Tootsie Roll Pop?
Duh #4: This year, with budgets being da #1 topic, Manalapan has passed a flat budget. It's also da election year for Andy Boy and his running mate, Jordan "Stu" Maskowitz. Da last time there was two straight years of flat taxes, da next year, taxes went up double digits because all da gimics were used up. Guess who is probably going to run for reelection next year with nothing now left in da gimic bag ----- DA QUEEN!!!!!!!!
Now, all of a sudden, da once "sure, borrow my car and don't worry about putting gas in it" relationship between da Queen and Andy Boy is turning into a hissing contest. Lucas said in da newspaper, "It's very disappointing that Mrs. Roth has decided to denigrate the serious concessions that our police officers have made in an effort to present a tight budget that does not increase the municipal tax burden on our residents."
Roth meanwhile too a somewhat higher road and says da Lucas-backed budget will bring untold horrors to da town in da future, telling da same newspaper, "Proper budgets will look at a one-, three- and five-year time horizon. This budget does not," Roth said. "It is managing for the moment and will cause us to either severely reduce staffing or services in 2011 and beyond."
And, when da last budget came up for a vote, before that vote, who was standing up against da Andy-Boy-budget ---- da same shovel carrying mayor from before.
How will da next years budget look when da Queen is up for reelection? Residential building has ground to a virtual halt. Home selling is seriously bad. Foreclosures are drastically up. And Manalapan's business base isn't growing. What will happen if all da budget gimics are used all this year? What will this leave da Queen next year? How will Manalapan residents feel if trash pickup is cut to once a week? Or businesses are forced to pay for their own trash pickup? What will happen if busing to schools is cut back? What will da reaction be if da tax burden on Manalapan residents goes even higher?
DaTruth is, while blood is thicker than water, politics is thinner than air in da Himalayas. Da Queen / Andy Boy alliance was working well for both parties for quite some time, putting down those who were against them (Joltin Joe, da Mosked Man, Susan Cohen) and keeping them both in power. However, something happened to bring things back to 2004 and 2005 and 2006 times.
What could that be?
DaTruth is, there was a time when da Queen seriously needed GOP'ers, or alleged GOP'ers, to keep her power intact. It was a powerful GOP'er who backed her in 2005 and helped her win an election. It was a GOP'er who convinced her to be against da Village. It was her alliance with GOP'ers against da Mosked man that helped keep that power base intact.
DaTruth is, da GOP'ers simply don't need da Queen anymore. Da Democrats can't win assembly or state Senate elections lately. Da GOP'ers are getting more $$$$$ donations. Chris Christie is in power in Trenton. And locally, da once dormant Yorktowne Club has far more political clout than they have in da past.
DaTruth is, da Manalapan Democratic party is now only a shell of what it once was. Da King abdicated his throne. Da Capo isn't as feared as he once was. Da bipartisan popular "Dollar Bill" was also kicked to da curb. They don't have a "pen-pal" at da Snoozer anymore. Democrats are losing local and statewide offices. Da GOP has da Freeloaders board back. Topics important to Democrats aren't as important as topics that GOP'ers stand for, such as taxes and less spending.
Now, add in da poorly Roth & township handled "Township of Manalapan vs da Mosked man" case that now spawned what could be a very costly case against da town by da Mosked Man, coupled with da "daTruthSquad First Amendment case" that brought ridicule to da town, and da case against Police Chief Stu Brown that also brought some shame to da town with another case that could cost da town more money and shame. Put all that together, and it's looking like da Queen is being left on da island all alone.
What will happen next?
Our embedded sources have uncovered a lot of backstabbing being felt by certain members of da Cadre who placed their trust in certain members of da opposition party, namely Andy Boy and his chief handlers. Unbeknownst to them, when they did "turn to da dark side" of their politics, they turned off a number of people in their own party. In addition, and almost hard to believe, it is quite possible there could have been a plan in place years ago to suck in certain high-ranking members of da Manalapan Democrats in order to bring down certain members of da Manalapan GOP'ers, and at da same time push through certain agendas that both da GOP'ers and da Queen's keepers had.
For this alleged scenario to work, it would have taken GOP'ers who were more powerful than they were letting on and could even survive a division within their own GOP'ers in town, a network such as a GOP'er-led "club" or "group" who could be in a position one day to muster more support than ever, powerful friends in Trenton, a few GOP'ers who could "work both sides of da street," and a political face of da group who could be controlled by da handlers without question.
If this scenario is correct, then it seems like da Queen no longer has her "court," and she will be on her own as Andy Boy certainly doesn't need her anymore. Da GOP has more power in Manalapan, around Manalapan and in da county and state than ever. Da Yorktowne Club has more clout than ever. Da things that matter most to voters now are all GOP'er-positive. Da enemies of da Queen, being da Mosked Man and da Chief, aren't backing down. And all da easy fixes in this town's budget probably won't be there in next years when da Queen runs for reelection.
And, da GOP leadership is smelling blood in da water. They realize that if they keep their seats this year, their majority becomes even stronger. If da Village gets built, then all da Queen's promises of stopping it will be remembered by those voters who didn't want it. They also realize that if they take back da seats of da Queen and da loveable Donnie Holland next year, they will have a 5-0 super majority, and Democrats will be left in da dirt.
And, maybe that was da plan for da Manalapan GOP'ers all along?
DaTruthSquad had heard rumblings that da alliance between da Queen and Andy Boy was always more helpful for Andy Boy, and in fact, made him mayor twice, which is what he wanted. Now, with a GOP'er resurgance, there is no need to have da support of da Queen and her pen-pals. In fact, maybe for da first time in a long time, da Queen and her court may have been blindsided by what daTruthsquad believes may have been a long-thought-out plan which will lead to da end of her political reign in Manalapan, and this time, da Mosked Man will have absolutely nothing to do with it.
And, if this is da case, it will happen at a time when da Queen is most vulnerable, as her party is now "looking in," her base of supporters has shrunk, she has made enemies thanks to her alliance with da GOP'ers, da lawsuits against da town are kicking into another gear, and her one-time friends on da GOP'er side of da page are now, apparently, no longer in need of her friendship.
There were a lot of da Queen's court who put their ill-will aside and backed Andy Boy. How must they be feeling now? DaTruthSquad's embedded sources hear they are none too thrilled with whom they perceive as "Benedict" Andy Boy right now. And, what is da Queen left with now to avenge any wrong against her --- an out-of-work pen-pal, a GOP'er friend who has no political clout, another friend with a checkered past, and da guy with da shovel.
For now, it seems like da Manalapan GOP'ers have a 3-2 majority, with no help needed from da Queen -- and they could very well keep that after November. Do you hear that, "Mayor" Green?
Oh, what a tangled web we weave. And that's daTruth.
(A) Al & Tipper Gore
(B) John & Elizabeth Edwards
(C) That wacky South Carolina governor and his Argentina mistress
(D) Manalapan's Andy Boy and Da Queen
For da last four years, there's been what some have called an "unholy" alliance between two people who were once mortal enemies. Some have even said that when side by side, you sometimes couldn't even tell where da Queen began and Andy Boy ended, and that da Democrat Queen and one-time alleged Manalapan and/or Freehold resident & alleged Republican/and or Democrat Andy Boy were on da same political party. In 2007 and 2008, Democrat da Queen was more buddy-buddy with Andy Boy than her own former Democratic running mate, Mr. Anthony Gennaro. And Andy Boy was more chummy with da Queen than his own GOP'ers da-late Joltin Joe and Susan Cohen and GOP'er proud footsoldiers Butch and Stevie J.
However, like many rock-solid relationships, it is starting to appear that money and power is getting between da once close Queen and her Andy Boy.
To understand more, you have to follow da bouncing ball of "Duh":
ISSUE 1: In 2005 and 2006, GOP'er Joltin Joe and then-GOP'er Andy Boy crafted town budgets in Manalapan that actually cut taxes during prosperous economic times. Those budgets used a good amount of budget surplus and were fiercely fought by none other than da Queen, who claimed those budgets were "reckless" among other things. She also had on her side a number of Democratic supporters, including a former mayor known for being known to carry both a large girth and larger shovel.
ISSUE 2: In 2007 and 2008, after tax cuts for two years in a row and despite continued home building in Manalapan and general prosperity, Manalapan taxpayers were backhanded with two amazingly large municipal tax increases - SOME OF DA LARGST IN TOWN HISTORY - both voted for and approved by da Queen, as well as da guy who won his election in 2004 saying he'd lower taxes - Andy Boy.
ISSUE 3: In 2009, when da Queen decided to run for da biggest office she'd ever run for, she pushed for and held taxes flat -- ironically, using da very same formula of using budget surplus to lower da bottom line that she was vehemently against in 2005 and 2006! Voting with her was Andy Boy.
ISSUE 4: Now, we're in 2010, and for da 2nd year in a row, da Manalapan Township Committee is holding taxes flat. However, this time, it's coming with a price - and for da Queen, an even bigger price.
This year, unlike da others, da town faces severe money troubles, and maybe and likely worse for 2011. For da first time, da Township committee ordered 10-day furloughs for a large number of town employees, and froze salaries for others, and demanded and received givebacks from da unions - and even approved to not hire police officers despite a growing population. Despite all of this, and a major cut to education that will cause teacher firings, they still had to grab millions of $$$$$$$ from da budget surplus to keep taxes flat - and that's $$$$$ that will have to be replenished.
Now, here's da problem ---
Duh #1: Da tax burden on Manalapan residents is about $19 million of da $32 million budget, a ratio already much higher than other Monmouth and Middlesex County towns. That $19 million would have been over $20 million, if not for da $1.4 million in cuts made to da Manalapan-Englishtown school system. That money was put directly into da Manalapan Township budget to cut da tax burden on Manalapan taxpayers - replacing da $1.4 million shortfall which would have raised taxes (a one-time quick fix).
Duh #2: Da Manalapan budget for years was helped out by building fees and new home construction fees and new taxes from that construction. With da housing bust busting Manalapan building, da town will get much less from builders in Manalapan who aren't building, meaning more tax burden for you da taxpayer.
Duh #3: For years, led by a certain powerful few who didn't want it in their backyard, da Village at Route 33 has been blocked. It was blocked by da Queen who used it to win an election. It was blocked by Andy Boy who got back in da good graces of GOP'ers and got da necessary support to also win an election, and get backing for another one despite a well-documented "limo ride" with a developer that da Queen herself touted during an election year. In a town with one of da very worst business ratable-ratios in da entire state, leaving da tax burden on Manalapan land owners, what could have been da biggest single tax boom for Manalapan residents has been blocked at every turn --- that is --- until now. Those who have been blocking da Village are now backing da must-have Route 33 access.
Promises made - Promises broken.
And, by da way --- Who was da "Wyle-E-Coyote-Super-Genious" who OK'd a traffic study by Planning Board engineers CME Associates -- which obviously cost tens of thousands of taxpayer $$$$$$$$?????? FYI - their "study" found that Route 33 access to da Village would most definitely and miraculously and significantly lessen da traffic impact on Millhurst Road! We could have found a 4 year old who could have figured that one out - and it would have probably cost taxpayers a pack of chewing gum!
What's next - paying a company that gives political donations $100,000 to find out how many licks it takes to polish off a Tootsie Roll Pop?
Duh #4: This year, with budgets being da #1 topic, Manalapan has passed a flat budget. It's also da election year for Andy Boy and his running mate, Jordan "Stu" Maskowitz. Da last time there was two straight years of flat taxes, da next year, taxes went up double digits because all da gimics were used up. Guess who is probably going to run for reelection next year with nothing now left in da gimic bag ----- DA QUEEN!!!!!!!!
Now, all of a sudden, da once "sure, borrow my car and don't worry about putting gas in it" relationship between da Queen and Andy Boy is turning into a hissing contest. Lucas said in da newspaper, "It's very disappointing that Mrs. Roth has decided to denigrate the serious concessions that our police officers have made in an effort to present a tight budget that does not increase the municipal tax burden on our residents."
Roth meanwhile too a somewhat higher road and says da Lucas-backed budget will bring untold horrors to da town in da future, telling da same newspaper, "Proper budgets will look at a one-, three- and five-year time horizon. This budget does not," Roth said. "It is managing for the moment and will cause us to either severely reduce staffing or services in 2011 and beyond."
And, when da last budget came up for a vote, before that vote, who was standing up against da Andy-Boy-budget ---- da same shovel carrying mayor from before.
How will da next years budget look when da Queen is up for reelection? Residential building has ground to a virtual halt. Home selling is seriously bad. Foreclosures are drastically up. And Manalapan's business base isn't growing. What will happen if all da budget gimics are used all this year? What will this leave da Queen next year? How will Manalapan residents feel if trash pickup is cut to once a week? Or businesses are forced to pay for their own trash pickup? What will happen if busing to schools is cut back? What will da reaction be if da tax burden on Manalapan residents goes even higher?
DaTruth is, while blood is thicker than water, politics is thinner than air in da Himalayas. Da Queen / Andy Boy alliance was working well for both parties for quite some time, putting down those who were against them (Joltin Joe, da Mosked Man, Susan Cohen) and keeping them both in power. However, something happened to bring things back to 2004 and 2005 and 2006 times.
What could that be?
DaTruth is, there was a time when da Queen seriously needed GOP'ers, or alleged GOP'ers, to keep her power intact. It was a powerful GOP'er who backed her in 2005 and helped her win an election. It was a GOP'er who convinced her to be against da Village. It was her alliance with GOP'ers against da Mosked man that helped keep that power base intact.
DaTruth is, da GOP'ers simply don't need da Queen anymore. Da Democrats can't win assembly or state Senate elections lately. Da GOP'ers are getting more $$$$$ donations. Chris Christie is in power in Trenton. And locally, da once dormant Yorktowne Club has far more political clout than they have in da past.
DaTruth is, da Manalapan Democratic party is now only a shell of what it once was. Da King abdicated his throne. Da Capo isn't as feared as he once was. Da bipartisan popular "Dollar Bill" was also kicked to da curb. They don't have a "pen-pal" at da Snoozer anymore. Democrats are losing local and statewide offices. Da GOP has da Freeloaders board back. Topics important to Democrats aren't as important as topics that GOP'ers stand for, such as taxes and less spending.
Now, add in da poorly Roth & township handled "Township of Manalapan vs da Mosked man" case that now spawned what could be a very costly case against da town by da Mosked Man, coupled with da "daTruthSquad First Amendment case" that brought ridicule to da town, and da case against Police Chief Stu Brown that also brought some shame to da town with another case that could cost da town more money and shame. Put all that together, and it's looking like da Queen is being left on da island all alone.
What will happen next?
Our embedded sources have uncovered a lot of backstabbing being felt by certain members of da Cadre who placed their trust in certain members of da opposition party, namely Andy Boy and his chief handlers. Unbeknownst to them, when they did "turn to da dark side" of their politics, they turned off a number of people in their own party. In addition, and almost hard to believe, it is quite possible there could have been a plan in place years ago to suck in certain high-ranking members of da Manalapan Democrats in order to bring down certain members of da Manalapan GOP'ers, and at da same time push through certain agendas that both da GOP'ers and da Queen's keepers had.
For this alleged scenario to work, it would have taken GOP'ers who were more powerful than they were letting on and could even survive a division within their own GOP'ers in town, a network such as a GOP'er-led "club" or "group" who could be in a position one day to muster more support than ever, powerful friends in Trenton, a few GOP'ers who could "work both sides of da street," and a political face of da group who could be controlled by da handlers without question.
If this scenario is correct, then it seems like da Queen no longer has her "court," and she will be on her own as Andy Boy certainly doesn't need her anymore. Da GOP has more power in Manalapan, around Manalapan and in da county and state than ever. Da Yorktowne Club has more clout than ever. Da things that matter most to voters now are all GOP'er-positive. Da enemies of da Queen, being da Mosked Man and da Chief, aren't backing down. And all da easy fixes in this town's budget probably won't be there in next years when da Queen runs for reelection.
And, da GOP leadership is smelling blood in da water. They realize that if they keep their seats this year, their majority becomes even stronger. If da Village gets built, then all da Queen's promises of stopping it will be remembered by those voters who didn't want it. They also realize that if they take back da seats of da Queen and da loveable Donnie Holland next year, they will have a 5-0 super majority, and Democrats will be left in da dirt.
And, maybe that was da plan for da Manalapan GOP'ers all along?
DaTruthSquad had heard rumblings that da alliance between da Queen and Andy Boy was always more helpful for Andy Boy, and in fact, made him mayor twice, which is what he wanted. Now, with a GOP'er resurgance, there is no need to have da support of da Queen and her pen-pals. In fact, maybe for da first time in a long time, da Queen and her court may have been blindsided by what daTruthsquad believes may have been a long-thought-out plan which will lead to da end of her political reign in Manalapan, and this time, da Mosked Man will have absolutely nothing to do with it.
And, if this is da case, it will happen at a time when da Queen is most vulnerable, as her party is now "looking in," her base of supporters has shrunk, she has made enemies thanks to her alliance with da GOP'ers, da lawsuits against da town are kicking into another gear, and her one-time friends on da GOP'er side of da page are now, apparently, no longer in need of her friendship.
There were a lot of da Queen's court who put their ill-will aside and backed Andy Boy. How must they be feeling now? DaTruthSquad's embedded sources hear they are none too thrilled with whom they perceive as "Benedict" Andy Boy right now. And, what is da Queen left with now to avenge any wrong against her --- an out-of-work pen-pal, a GOP'er friend who has no political clout, another friend with a checkered past, and da guy with da shovel.
For now, it seems like da Manalapan GOP'ers have a 3-2 majority, with no help needed from da Queen -- and they could very well keep that after November. Do you hear that, "Mayor" Green?
Oh, what a tangled web we weave. And that's daTruth.
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Couldn't happen to a nicer person!
Squad, if you are right this will blow the lid off Manalapan politics! Queen Michelle has been duped by Andy Boy, Gray and McEnery. I will have to give them more credit.
This is amazing. If you are correct, and I have to admit it seems very likely by what is written here, then the Roths have lost their power in Manalapan. I think you nailed it. Michelle Roth was played by Andrew, and played like a fiddle. I think Andrew just won his election this year, and may have sealed Michelle's fate next year. The Manalapan GOP is back.
Hey Michelle and Larry, what is it like to have your alleged friends stab YOU in the back?
Payback is a bitch!
A fine fairy tale. Rubbish, pure rubbish.
Let's see, Andrew kissed her ass to get higher taxes, support on a vendetta lawsuit, cover when he violated the ethics laws, and now he turned on her like he turned on the Republicans after Joe got him elected...and you call that genius? I call him a corrupt slimeball which I wouldn't let my kids near for fear of contamination!
I hope Andrew and Jordan both thought this out. By trashing Roth and severing their ties, you know she knows what skeletons hang in Andrew's closet. That will impact Jordan's election chances.
I know Jordan and I like him, but you have to admit this tactic could backfire.
Hell hath no fury than a woman scorned. Michelle Roth isn't a saint, but you know she knows enough about Andy to do some damage to his election chances.
Squaddo, you may be right here. I was at the last TC meeting when Lucas gave such a cold shoulder to Michelle that she had icicles hanging from her hair. If I were Michelle, I'd be rather put back because she really helped him a lot more than he helped her in their relationship. The GOP took advantage of her, and this is the result.
It's truly amazing how some people have this half ass backwards. It was Queen Roth that started the whole situation with her hatred of Moskovitz, and the Chief, and the Truth Squad, and the symphony conductor, and Collincini. She got what she deserves, a cold shoulder is the least of her worries with those lawsuits that named her as a defendant. Kudos to Andrew. He did the right thing by severing his ties with Roth and all the trouble she has caused.
I was at the meeting the other night and I knew that there was a partnership between Andrew and Roth. I was never in favor of that as a proud Republican, it rubbed me the wrong way, especially the way he was attacked in elections past by her. I have a lot more respect for Andrew. I was not going to vote for him this year (I am voting for Jordan). But now I may change that thinking. The Republican Party is back in Manalapan!
Joey D doesn't play games he just lowers taxes. They all stink so I'm voting for the man with a plan JOEY D !!!!!! Joey D kisses no ones a$$.
This was an interesting read.
I too watched the budget meeting and saw the change in Lucas.
The Republican party was cohesive.
Mrs. Roth's second Democratic running mate, Mr.Don Holland even voted with the Republican's and against her. To me that was an even bigger shocker.
I'm in no way a fan of this blog, but when your right, your right.
The republicans are now all on the same page and a together bunch. I don't know who is responsible for that, but its the first time in a very long time its been like that. Roth was left on an island by herself. The republicans turned her into an outcast, and I think that was their plan all along. It was just a matter of when and the right time, and they picked now. Roth, you've been played and played very well by the republicans.
The DTS brings up a very important point about past budgets. Indeed in 2005 and 2006 the budget surplus was raided to create flat taxes. With absolutely no surplus left in 2007, there was no choice but to replenish it or face serious financial issues, and even Lucas said the taxes had to be raised heavily. Now we've done the same thing again. If taxes can't be raised next year to replenish the surplus fund, then the only way to do it will be a drastic cut in basic services. There are towns that are forcing residents to pay for their own trash pickup. Imagine no school busing. Businesses forced to pay for their own trash removal. Less police and less people in town hall. That's what we could be looking at in 2011.
I agree with the Squad. Lucas put one over on Roth.
Hey Michelle, now you know what Tony Gennaro felt like. Your next 18 months in office will be fun indeed, with you as the pariah. I can't wait for the censure resolution against you!
I don't give a hoot about changing factions between the reds and the blues in manalapan. all i care about is that there is still a 4-1 majority against the cancer call "Moskovitzism," and that will go to 5-0 regardless of how the vote goes once Suzie Cohen is out of the picture.
So this Moskovitzist blog loses no matter what happens.
I doubt medication will help your "Moskovitzism" issue, but what does that have to do with Michelle Roth? If the Republicans win in November, the lawsuit with Chief Brown will be dumped all over Roth. The 3-GOP majority then could simply vote to end it and blame the whole thing on Roth, just in tome for her election campaign next year. In that case, Moskovitz would win, and there would be nothing she could do about it.
"Hey Michelle, now you know what Tony Gennaro felt like. Your next 18 months in office will be fun indeed, with you as the pariah. I can't wait for the censure resolution against you!"
I'm looking forward to that censure vote too. Bring it on!!!
"I was at the meeting the other night and I knew that there was a partnership between Andrew and Roth. I was never in favor of that as a proud Republican, it rubbed me the wrong way, especially the way he was attacked in elections past by her. I have a lot more respect for Andrew. I was not going to vote for him this year (I am voting for Jordan). But now I may change that thinking. The Republican Party is back in Manalapan!"
ARE YOU NUTS! ANDREW RAISED YOUR TAXES THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE EVERY IN @ YEARS BACK TO BACK. NO OTHER TOWN IN MONMOUTH COUNTY HAS DONE THAT. HOW ABOUT ALL THE NO BID DEALS WITH CME THAT GAVE THEM MILLIONS. AND YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS SELFISH BASTARD?
JORDON, YOU ARE KNOWN BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP. STAY WITH LUCAS CORRUPTION AND YOU WILL END UP CORRUPT JUST LIKE KLAUBER!!!!!
"I doubt medication will help your "Moskovitzism" issue, but what does that have to do with Michelle Roth?"
I doubt medication will help your Michelle Roth issue, but what does that have with the forthcoming TC vote on the proclamation asking Stu Moskovitz to leave Manalapan?
Andrew and Jordan have an excellent chance at elecion time. The voters of this town are all to familiar with how things run when the Democrats have power. The public is not stupid and they want decorum. Like him or not Andrew Lucas brings that to the table as does Green. In my humble opinion of course.
Larry, you are so pathetic. Maybe if you spent less time blogging about an attorney that laughs at you while you obsess over him, you'd actually be able to have an office like he does.
Hey Larry. If Michelle fed you and took you to the vet for your shots, do you think that would clear up your distemper and make this comment section a little more civil?
If the Squad's scenario is accurate, and I must admit IMHO that there's a lot of truth here, then Andrew may have just won this election.
And, if Jordan joins the duo of Andrew and Ryan, then the next 12 months may be more brutal for Michelle than they ever were to Tony Gennaro.
Here's my resolution:
ON THIS DAY WE VOTE TO CENSURE MICHELLE ROTH, FOR HER FORCING A LAWSUIT TO NOWHERE AGAINST MOSKOVITZ DOWN THE THROATS OF TAXPAYERS, AS WELL AS THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE TRUTH SQUAD, STU BROWN, AND HER ACTIONS AGAINST OUR GREAT FORMER SYMPHONY CONDUCTOR AND GREAT FORMER MANALAPAN REC LEADER. SHE SHOULD BE CENSURED, AND THIS RECORD WILL REMAIN WITH HER FOR ALL TIME.
MR. LUCAS - AYE
MR. GREEN - AYE
MR. MASKOWITZ - AYE
MR. HOLLAND - AYE
Mrs. Roth was not allowed to vote, since much like Susan Cohen was forced to leave the room, Roth was not present to defend herself.
Now that would be justice!
"And, if Jordan joins the duo of Andrew and Ryan, then the next 12 months may be more brutal for Michelle than they ever were to Tony Gennaro."
Just what the Republicans need, two more jerks to do what Andrew did to Gennaro! Remember, Andrew was a willing participant even though the judge said to cease and desist. Lucas moved for the censure against Gennaro and...oh wait.....AGAINST REPUBLICAN COHEN!
He sold his soul a long time ago. It probably started when he joined with Roth to go after the conductor. They attended the same church and her husband gave Andrew rides to Princeton. Then, he stabbed her in the back to buddy up with Roth. He turns on anyone and anything that will benefit himself. He should be kicked to the curb like yhe lowlife trash he is!
A ridiculous scare. State law is clear, and it is not at all likely to be revised. Maybe you're referring to "courtesy busing.
I noticed it has been very quiet on the KB hate site. I think they were caught off guard by the apparent Republican plan that did indeed kick Roth out of their little game. It will be interesting to see how the next few months move along and how Roth is treated by the Lucas-Green alliance. Once Jordan is in there, they will have no need for Roth's input.
Don't count Michelle out just yet. Sure it seems very likely that Andy Boy put one over on her. It's not like he hasn't done that before. However, this time he has played with fire, because in anything that Michelle did or may have done, Andy's fingerprints are also all over it. You know Michelle and Larry know where Andy's skeletons are hidden now that that he has been a willing participant in the alliance. If i were Andy, I'd be worried about how a true stratagist like Michelle could turn the tables on him.
Re: 'Imagine no school busing.' said...
A ridiculous scare. State law is clear, and it is not at all likely to be revised. Maybe you're referring to "courtesy busing.
There is now state law that says every kid in the entire state must be taken to and from school on a bus. At least not in New Jersey.
Think before you write.
I think we're going to see a lot of fireworks in Manalapan Town Hall soon enough. You know Roth isn't going to sit back and just take what Andrew put over on her. I don't like Roth, but you know this one isn';t over.
@Bus this:
You ought to inform the State Education Dept. about that. This is what they are saying today:
"Student Transportation
» Student Transportation Home «
Frequently Asked Questions Of The Office Of Student Transportation
Q. Who must be transported?
A. In accordance with state law, N.J.S.A. 18A:39-1, all public elementary school students (grades K-8) who live more than two miles from their school and all public secondary school students (grades 9-12) who live more than two-and-a-half miles from their school are entitled to transportation. These students are said to live "remote from school." Whenever a school district is required to provide transportation to students attending regular public school programs, students attending nonpublic schools who meet those distance requirements may also be entitled to transportation services. In addition, any student classified with special needs who either meets these distance requirements or for whom transportation is required in the student’s Individual Education Plan must be transported."
doesn't anyone have anything nice to say about volunteer public service by our elected officials on the anniversary of our independence?
"If i were Andy, I'd be worried about how a true stratagist like Michelle could turn the tables on him."
LOL. Yeh, ask Caroline Casagrande what a great "strategist" Michelle Roth is. Michelle was never a great strategist. The only elections she ever won were won with hatred and vicious, untrue attacks on her opponents. That's not "strategy." That's low life third world tactics. The people are on to her. She's as finished as her business.
Joey D will be great for Manalapan!
"The only elections she ever won were won with hatred and vicious, untrue attacks on her opponents. That's not "strategy." That's low life third world tactics. The people are on to her. She's as finished as her business."
There's some almost truth to this.
She lost her 2004 election but used a smear campaign. She won in 2005 with an even more vile smear and lie campaign. She was nice during the Casagrande election and lost big. She was nice in 2008 and won.
My guess is when she runs again in 2011, this time it will be ugly. I also have to agree with some prior bloggers - she was blindsided by Andrew and the Republicans big time.
She must have done something really bad to really tick off the Gray / Lucas Republicans for them to dump her like this. Whatever it was, she's in real political trouble now because now she only has Spodak, Kathy, George, Ward and the SEC violator on her side. That's not exactly the group I'd want backing me.
Lucas putting one over on Roth. I'd never believe it.
It's more like Gray putting one over on Roth. Remember what he said when Roth ran after the Police Chief?
I have to agree with the post regarding Roth going after the Police Chief.
A former administrator of Manalapan once said that"going after a Police Chief in your town is political suicide." That former administrator that Manalapan got rid of, is happily working in a neighboring town. Not only that she is a huge asset to the mayor and his administration.
Image that!
Is it criminal to take trips and luggage from a big time Manalapan developer? What is a vote for rezoning or no bid contracts worth these days? Just asking you Lucas/Gray fans!
I think the person who posted about the going after Chief Brown comment makes a lot of sense. That was the big instance that Andy Boy couldn't stand side by side with Roth on. Not only will that case cost Manalapan residents a lot of money when it is settled, but it may have sealed Roth's fate. I don't see her coming back from this, especially since she has less friends than she did in 2005 and too many lawsuits she put the town in front of. Maybe she should just resign now and do us all a big favor. Maybe she and her friend Kathy could move to Florida and go fishing with their friend George.
"Is it criminal to take trips and luggage from a big time Manalapan developer? What is a vote for rezoning or no bid contracts worth these days? Just asking you Lucas/Gray fans!"
I'd like to hear more about this, especially with Lucas running for election again this year. Are you watching Jordan?
if we had stu back as mayor, that would be great because then he couldn't lie about the people serving manalapan.
How about this? BOTH Andy Boy and the Queen stink like a pile of garbage on a hot summer afternoon. She's a raging lunatic and he changes his viewpoint on things the way I change my socks, and as far as I am concerned, NEITHER of them belong in MY government!
Remember, there is an easy way to fix the pathetic political problems in Manalapan.
Step 1 - Vote out Lucas this year.
Step 2 - Vote out Roth and Holland next year.
Step 3 - Vote out Green after that.
Kathy Baratta should run for the Manalapan Township Committee. Maybe she could run with Roth next year. She needs a job, doesn't she?
Forget Kathy Baratter vote Joey D for Manlapan Townships committee!
bring back benito moskovitz!!
"if we had stu back as mayor, that would be great because then he couldn't lie about the people serving manalapan."
You're a broken record Larry, not just a broken man. It would be great to have Stu back as mayor. When he was mayor, our taxes were lowered, our surplus was increased and our services were increased. It's amazing what government can do when someone is sitting up there who knows what they're doing. We haven't had that for a very long time. As for "lying" about people serving in Manalapan, there are two problems with that Larry. First, Stu has never lied about anyone. Second, your wife - who you constantly claim, wrongly, is lied about by Stu -- is serving herself, not Manalapan. Stu's merely pointing that out in litigation against her richly deserved. It will be nice when Michelle is out of office and the town can begin repairing the damage she's done.
It's not that Roth doesn't know what she's doing. She knows all too well exactly what she's doing. And so do we.
It's all about her, her, her, her.
And even her sycophants are starting to see that and drop away from her.
KB's HATE website has been surprisingly quiet about Roth getting doublecrossed by the GOP. Maybe they see the writing on the wall that her political career, built on the backs of people she stabbed in the back is now over. Now there will be nobody to protect Roth as she remains a defendant in a number of lawsuits that has also named the town as a defendant due to her actions. Maybe it is time for a state investigation into Manalapan political corruption.
I'm sure Michelle Roth still has friends down on Route 33 where she promised to stop the Village from being built.
Oops, didn't she vote for Route 33 access for the Village, which will get it built? Another promise unkept.
question:
is it against the law for a toenship committeeman to contact the local prosecutor and get charges for causing an accident dropped? how many times would the mayor have to do that to be guilty and what would he be guilty of?
Do you Joey D supporters have more than a 3rd grade education? Your spelling and grammer are terrible.
"Benito Moskovitz?" Larry, your anti-Italian prejudice never stops, does it?
Squad, you hit the nail on the head. Roth is done. She made too many enemies and started too many lawsuits and now she's lost the support she needed from the Republicans to keep her power. Stick a fork in her political career, its over!
I think a lot of people here are counting Michelle out too quickly. Remember that Andrew has skeletons in his closet, and Michelle now probably knows about them. If I were Andrew, I'd be worried that Michelle might expose some of those skeletons.
I can't believe Michelle Roth allowed herself to get so blind sided by Andrew and the Republicans. Shocking to say the least. The people backing her dropped the ball big time.
@the hall monitor who is checking for grammar and spelling:
Their math is a hell of a lot better than yours because they can at least balance budgets. Your math ends up with sanctions, federal suspensions and multimillion-dollar fines.
"question: is it against the law for a toenship committeeman to contact the local prosecutor and get charges for causing an accident dropped? how many times would the mayor have to do that to be guilty and what would he be guilty of?"
Could this be the opening salvo in a counterattack by Roth against Andy?
"Hell Hath No Fury Than A Woman Scorned."
Remember that phrase Manalapan GOP. The face of your little group of sycophants may have some serious explaining to do very soon.
Joey D supporters don't need to spell right because Joey D runs a successful business and he's in no ones pockets and he cuts taxes and he know's budgets and he watches out for the comman people of Manalapan. Joey D is for the working man that's why everyone who works supports Joey D!!!!
any intelligent analysis of the preceding posts makes clear that a tiny extremist fsction of people connected with this blog are posting to create distrust and suspicion between the moderate republicans and democrats who have worked well together over the past few years to run a government for the benefit of the town and not with a partisan eye on the next election. let's hope they stay the course in the face of the trouble that this blog tries to perpetrate behind anonymous voices of discord.
Fred Stone, not to burst your bubble you missed a key point that the DTS said and that is that this so-called alliance was alsways better for Andrew than it ever was for Michelle. Don't be surprised if more "reality" about this so-called alliance comes out, as well as dirt about Michelle. Andrew needed Michelle to win an election before. Michelle gave him that win. Now he needs to win again, and to do that he needs the GOP to believe he is a real Republican. Kicking Michelle in her rear does that. This was never about being friends and working together. It was always about power, and now Andrew has more power than he ever had and Michelle is the victim of that.
"are posting to create distrust and suspicion between the moderate republicans and democrats who have worked well together over the past few years to run a government for the benefit of the town and not with a partisan eye on the next election"
Here lies the alliance. Born in late-2006 to allow Andy and Michelle chances to be mayor. Died 2010 so Andy can show he has marbles you know where. It will be buried right next to Roth's future political career which is on life support now if it is even breathing at all.
People, its not Andrew who orchestrated this. It was someone else who has been playing Michelle and Andrew all along so he could keep his power. Think about it.
"any intelligent analysis of the preceding posts makes clear that a tiny extremist fsction of people connected with this blog are posting to create distrust and suspicion"
Wow, you are one dumb little puppy Fred. It's not surprising you got caught perpetrating one of the more idiotic securities scams ever reported.
"People, its not Andrew who orchestrated this. It was someone else who has been playing Michelle and Andrew all along so he could keep his power. Think about it."
IT TWAS.........
IT TWAS.........
Lifeboy!
Anonymous said...
People, its not Andrew who orchestrated this. It was someone else who has been playing Michelle and Andrew all along so he could keep his power. Think about it.
I think this person knows more. I also think there's someone pulling strings, and in this case yanked Michelle's strings pretty hard. As to who it may be, I don't think it was Ward or McEnery. It must have been someone else. Any ideas?
You mean it wasn't Stu?
Usually it is Roth and Lucas who want to screw over Stu, and he turns around and screws them over. This time, it was someone else who got Roth. Someone more powerful than Lucas will ever be.
Who pays more in property taxes, Lucas or Roth. I hear Andrew pays less than 100 dollars for 5 acres of Manalapan land. He raises one bull and makes a whopping few thousand. Sounds just like Karcher, sell a few trees....er raise one bull.....make a few thousand dollars to save a sweet 10 grand in property taxes.
I just want to know more about the luggage and free trips....er and maybe about the cash.
There's one thing I can tell you with certainty. Larry and Michelle Roth pay 13032.09 according to the county for property taxes on their home and 1.3 acres of land it sits on.
Andrew's farm has 5.08 acres. He pays less than $50 a YEAR according to county records on land assessed at only $900!
And he runs his financial business out of his house / garage!
Oh, and he gets FREE health care courtesy of being on the Township Committee!
Yes, but Lucas also pays $6,966.26 yearly for the property the house is on. Not a Lucas fan but the facts are the facts and he raises more than one bull and works the land. Nice try though.
The Hollands are lovely people, Don ran with Roth, don't know what he was thinking, but personally and in my humble opinion, I think he realizes it was a mistake.
Funny you don't mention that Don pays only $60.00 a year on 20 acres of farmland too. Or that he placed his farm into farmland preservation and was justly compensated. He pays around $10K on the other lots which include the house. For all the years these farmers have been getting this tax break they qualify and pass inspection as farmers. Decent, hardworking men the senior Mr. Lucas and Mr. Holland are. Farmers, real farmers. You are barking up the wrong tree. Desperate people do desperate things. Musn't be going too well for Roth faction.
Get your facts straight ye misinformed Lucas apologist! Lucas does not "Farm" the land. He may have two bulls but the profit is a few thousand, hardly enough to say he is making a living on the land he does not "Farm." Farming hay on other "State owned" property is where his "Farming" is done. He pays pennies to rent state land.
By the way, isn't one of his farmer friends getting to farm the former Providence corp land we paid 1.5 million to buy? Oh yes,, they pay a small amount to use the land they will make thousands and thousands on. Smell a deal here?
Lucas knows how to scam the system. Raise a little bull for thousands in property tax not paid. I guess you could say it is a brilliant misuse of the farmland act established to help actual farmers be able to make a profit and support their families.
Don Holland guilty, too? Don't vote for that retired plumber or the Mayor. Show them both where to take their political deal making asses!
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