Friday, January 23, 2009

Is Commissar Klauber Violating Da First Amendment?

The following is a dramatization:

Da meeting of da Manalapanistan Township Committee comes to order. As da 5 ruling members ascend their thrones, da mayor commands his subjects to approach da dais - if they dare - to speak before da committee.

First up is a woman who says, I'd like to talk about how our tax dollars are spent, but realizing she is not allowed to broach such issues, instead said how nicely da flowers were in front of Town Hall.

Next up is a man who starts by saying, "I have some concerns about how our tax dollars are spent, but because we're barred from asking such questions, I'd like to say that your haircut, Mr. Mayor, is quite becoming."


Then, a woman approached the table, and demanded that da Manalapanistan Township Committee talk about "Da Township of Manalapan vs Da Mosked Man." Immediately, da woman was whisked away. Her whereabouts are still unknown. She was not seen locked in da Manalapanistan stocks, or chained to da wall of da Manalapanistan Township Committee dungeon. A search could not turn up her remains.

After that, another man came up, looking very intimidated, who said, "I, too have issues with our high taxes. But that's not important to you, so instead, I'd love to say that the carpeting in this room is simply devine."

Another woman stepped forward, sheepishly saying, "I'm so glad you wonderful folks in your thrones found it in your heart not to send swarms of locusts or frogs upon us. My children bless you all daily for not slaying our first born. You are all truly inspirational to us."


Finally, a portly man carrying an engraved broom came and sat down. He proceeded to call taxpaying citizens vile names, compared another to a toilet, and said a certain attorney should be boiled in oil. He was thanked by da Manalapanistan politburo elite, and since his hatespeech was only 4 minutes and 58 seconds long, he was thanked for his promptness to da 5-minute rule, and walked back to his seat.

Of course, this isn't da way all Manalapan Township Committee meetings happen, but it could be after Commissar Klauber deemed da lawsuit an "off-limits" issue banned from discussion in Town Hall.

In other words, Manalapan's lawyer-Mayor has stated that da First Amendment does not apply in Manalapan Town Hall!


Apparently in Manalapan, you can speak only to da Manalapan Township Committee about only what they want you to speak about. That must explain da empty toilet paper rolls in da Town Hall bathroom, but a tray holding copies of da First Amendment is available in each stall.

You know when da local Snoozepaper & daTruthSquad are on da same page, there's something really messed up with this situation, but in this case, da Snoozepaper hit da First Amendment nail on da head.

Da Snoozer's Mark Rosman laid out his case very well:

"I cannot support the abridgement of free speech, and that is what could happen in Manalapan this year if a rule established by Mayor Richard Klauber is not challenged."

Then, Rosman put da town's spent money where their mouths should be - DETAILING WHAT DATRUTHSQUAD HAS SAID ALL ALONG - THAT YOU DA TAXAPAYER ARE PAYING FOR THIS NOW - AND YOU WILL BE PAYING MUCH MORE:

"I suppose that means Manalapan residents will not be able to ask their elected officials about a payment of $6,264.60 that was made to the Scottsdale Insurance Company and approved by the Township Committee on Jan. 14. The payment was for the defense of Committeeman Andrew Lucas in an ongoing case that involves the township and its former municipal attorney, Stuart Moskovitz. This is a case in which officials have said that the township is not incurring any costs because the attorney who is representingManalapan is handling the case on a contingency basis. Manalapan had already paid more than $6,000 to an expert at the start of the litigation, plus other attorney fees it deemed negligible (that's your money). Adding on that $6,200 payment to defend Lucas, who became a third party defendant, brings the legal bill to at least $12,000 by my account."

By da way, is daTruthSquad da only one scratching their head on this, because wasn't it Commissar Klauber who said taxpayers weren't paying any money for lawyers in da Mosked Man's case? Wasn't it former township attorney, known for her "Bomb Thrower" line that also echoed that?

If Manalapan taxpayers aren't paying a dime on this case, and according to da Commissar haven't been, then why has $12,000 been spent on two different lawyers, and that's only da money that has been leaked out through newspaper reports?

Manalapan's Politburo, by its own admission, has now paid lawyers more than $2,000 than da entire cleanup work at da Dreyer site cost --- and da meter is still running!

DaTruth is, this could become da next salvo in a First Amendment case. What Manalapan's politburo elite want to do is remove da townspeople's right to Free Speech, and take away YOUR rights to ask questions, under da guise of a legal issue, or national security issue, or whatever they simply decide is an "issue." That is not right, and it not only should be challenged, it should be told to everyone.

As a taxpayer, YOU DA TAXPAYER have every right to ask your politicians who you elected questions on how your money is spent. In da past, Manalapan taxpayers were told NO MONEY IS BEING SPENT, as da lawyer is on a contingency fee and only gets money if we win da case. Now we find that over $12,000 has been given to lawyers hand-picked and approved by YOUR POLITICAL LEADERS. DaTruthSquad has exposed this, and da Snoozer (Mark Rosman, not Kathy Barratta) has exposed this too.

What can you do? You can contact da New Jersey Civil Liberties Union, who knows all-too well about First Amendment issues in this particular area. You can also file an online complaint. Obviously, there are other First Amendment organizations that probably would be thrilled to get involved in wanting to know why First Amendment rights are being violated.

At da December 3 meeting, a former mayor told da Township Committee he had da absolute right to speak about da lawsuit. Even sitting-in Township Attorney McCarthy said da former mayor had that right!

Maybe da Commissar-Mayor needs to consult a lawyer of his own?

DaTruth is, by not allowing citizens to discuss an issue, it first slaps da faces of our brave men & women in da military who lay their lives on da line every day for freedom of speech and freedom of expression. Second, it's a complete violation of YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, and third, it shows in effect that da Gang of Three on da Politburo have something to hide.

It also shows daTruthSquad has been right all along - If you cannot discuss this lawsuit in an open fashion and explain it to your citizens WHO ARE PAYING FOR IT, then there must be something flawed about it or there must be something wrong with it -- or -- there must be something about da lawsuit da Politburo is trying to hide.

Demand that da Manalapan Township Politburo come clean! Demand they drop their rules of what you can and cannot ask, or pack your bags and move to a country where Free Speech is equal to da way da Commissar would like it to be, a nation such as North Korea or Syria, or Iran.

And that's daTruth.

75 comments:

Anonymous said...

If you're wondering who taught Klauber how to run a meeting (he certainly didn't learn anything in law school), try this article out of Aberdeen. http://www.aberdeener.com/2008/03/aberdeen-pays-hush-money-to-ex-town.html

Just a cautionary note, the Stuart Brown identified in this article is NOT the same as the Police Chief. It does seem however that the gang of three and their puppet master seem to have a dislike for anyone with that name (or anyone else named Stu, for that matter). Read this article carefully. You'll recognize a lot of the same tactics and you'll also begin to understand that Manalapan will continue to resemble the Gulag unless we start to do something in November to get rid of the Aberdeen puppet master controlling Manalapan for the last eight years, while lining his pockets with our tax dollars.

Anonymous said...

Great posting on NJ.COM (which I am sure will be deleted soon enough) It was addressed to KB posting as clownfoe (no, I am not the person who called clownfoe McEnery. Whoever that was has their opinion, I have mine):

3753.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1. There's a word for people
by kathysclwn, 1/23/09 14:01 ET
Re: has anyone else noticed by kathysclwn, 1/23/09
who are detached from reality, who see the same person everywhere, who are obsessed with one individual and cannot distinguish between people because of that obsession, who take trivial matters like this blogsite and take them dead seriously like they actually have some importance, who have no sense of humor because of their anguished fixation. That word is schizophrenia, Kathy. We've noticed it for years in your articles in the News Transcript. We've noticed it on your two blogsites, howellnj and the silly one fixated on "Sybil" who, in reality is at least eight or nine different people because we all know who they are. None of them speak to you, of course -- and isn't that ironic, that the only person who can't get the truth is the "reporter." Look, we all understand that because of your diseased mind, it's easy to push your buttons. Shame on us for doing so. But shame on the News Transcript for employing you in a situation where you are supposed to be reporting objectively without requiring you to get help first. It's schizophrenia. You need help Kathy. Greg Bean is doing you no favors by enabling your illness. He's destroying your life by allowing you to fixate without getting help. Shame on him. Seriously. That is real. Not this blog. Your illness is what's real. Your illness is what should be taken seriously, not the rantings of a bunch of people posting here or on any other anonymous blogsite.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of clownfoe over on nj.com

Are you going to respond to clownfoe's offer, you foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, chicken shi$ (apparently that has now been established), girly man?

Anonymous said...

Kathy, get help. What makes you think that Lucas is the one posting, anyway?

Anonymous said...

So this was a productive day. Maybe not for Kathy, it never is. But for the rest of us, we've manage to establish that Kathy has a diseased heart and a diseased mind. But then, neither of those is really a surprise, is it?

Anonymous said...

I didn't post thiis on nj.com, because it will be delete. Check out the results of the poll over at the gunslingers blog.

Anonymous said...

The only thing we established today is what I knew all along. You are chicken shi$ with a big mouth.

Anonymous said...

Kathy give it up. Who cares about the poll you conducted where you were the only one who voted? You don't get it Kathy. No on shares your obsession. You are deranged. You are sick. Just look at your language in the last post. That would be enough to convince anybody as to your depraved mind, even if it weren't for the fact that you've repeated it several dozen times already. THAT is the surest sign of insanity. At this point, we have to seriously question whether you are a danger to society, to the person you're obsessed with, to your newspaper, or anyone else, a danger significant enough to warrant an involuntary commitment. Seriously. I'm not joking.

Anonymous said...

So now you are threatening me. Bring it clown. Feeling to much pressure over reneging on your offer, are you? I already told you and I'll tell you again. I don't hate everyone, I just hate YOU, you foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, chicken shi$, girly man.

I don't know who you are and you have no idea what a good thing that is for you.

Now onto your bullspit.

You wrote:

Just look at your language in the last post. That would be enough to convince anybody as to your depraved mind, even if it weren't for the fact that you've repeated it several dozen times already. THAT is the surest sign of insanity.

Does the phrase "Hic Burp" posted over and over, ad nauseam ring a bell clown?

or maybe:

transference, transference, transference

or perhaps:

night and day. night and day

or:

McEnery, shame on you. Are you really in a position to call ANYONE else and obsessed psycho? Come on. So put the bottle of Jamison's down (that already got you in trouble with that DUI, didn't it?) and tell us about the money you lost with Andrew Lucas. Come on, we all need a good laugh.



I guess you just proved you are insane by your own definition. Not surprising to anyone who knows you, I'm sure.

You had your chance creep. Either follow through with the clownfoe, or go crawl back under the rock you slithered out from under.

Anonymous said...

I want to thank Mark Rossman, for bringing to light in this weeks editorial, the secretive and escalating taxpayer costs of the Manalapan vs. Moskovitz case.
Mr. Rossman, I think you need to ask Mayor Klauber about the bill from Mr. McCarthy for $9,600 on this case. Klauber pulled this bill from the bill list and it has been held for more than 8 months now. Where has that bill gone? Have those charges suddenly been waived and given as a generous gift to the town by Mr.McCarthy? You would never think that they may have submitted it in some creative way for payment, would you? Perhaps through the Planning Board? I am very concerned about this, as this is a very serious matter which I would love to question Mayor Klauber about. But as you reported, we are no longer allowed to ask any questions.
Mr. Rossman why do you think Mayor Klauber is trying so hard to suppress our Freedom of Speech under the 1st Amendment on this matter of Manalapan vs. Moskovitz?

Respectfully,
A Manalapan Taxpayer who is being kept in the dark by Mayor Klauber.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Kathy, for proving the point everyone is making about you. You just took postings from many different people and stuck them together just like they were all from one person. Only a totally deranged nutjob like you would think those postings came from the same person. You just don't want to face reality, Kathy. You never have; you never will. You just want to keep bloviating. Because you're anything but fair and certainly not balanced. But, I have to move on, I have a life to live, so, I'll give you the last word.

Anonymous said...

I think the fact Mr. Rossman wrote the editorial he did speaks volumes. Obviously this type of work would have never been done by the reporter (supporter) he has working in Town Hall. He proved beyond a doubt Klauber and his friends are liars about the Moskovitz case costs.

And the Truth Squad is right. If the Transcript and the Squad is in agreement, there has to be a truth to it.

WYATT EARP, MD. said...

LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYTHING ROSMAN WRITES IS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIE I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KATHY SHOULD BE THE EDITOR THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE'S THE REAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REPORTER I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE FRAUD SQUAD LIES ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FRAUD I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO KLAUBER GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE THE MAYOR'S MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Ok, so here is the last word. You are one person posting in response to what I write. Say what you want, but you know it and I know it. Sooner or later you will be unmasked and people will see you for the pathetic, foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, chicken shi$, girly man you are.

Anonymous said...

I don't get it. Why do you keep dragging (no pun intended) Andrew Lucas into this?

Equal time for all said...

Since this will be deleted over at nj.com:

My friend who is not by JWWhimpy, 1/24/09

able to post due to the actions of a person of questionable repute asked me to post this.

There is a blog at blogspot.com that gives an opinion of said, questionable person. I have visited it and it's really quite interesting. I suppose this post will be deleted, because, well, although some people jump up and down about first amendment rights, they only really believe in them when they think they are wronged. Many would say that’s hypocritical and I would have to agree with them.

Imagine, if you will, during the civil war, a bunch of people sought to suppress news by manipulating the process that reported the news while protesting that others were doing the same thing. Amazing, yes?

Well, I digress. Anyway, for some additional insight about what is going on, please visit : www.daantisybilsquad.blogspot.com/

To the blog administrator, I believe I have met the requirements for posting a link.

Anonymous said...

I certainly don't always agree with this blog, but in this case I'm making an exception.

Klauber IMHO is violating the First Amendment by gagging speech about the Moskovitz case. Maybe it's because he and his boss Roth are losing the case in the court of public opinion. Maybe it's because Manalapan doesn't have much legal ground to stand on. Maybe it's because the lawyers aren't doing well in court, case in point the verdict in favor of DTS in 2007. Whatever the reason, DTS is right and Rosman is right. Klauber better lift his First Amndment rule or someone will be calling the ACLU.

That is the truth.

Anonymous said...

Oh Kathy, you poor diseased soul. You have tried desperately to publicize your juvenile hit site attacking ghosts. It's sad, but laughable. You are still so psychotic you think you can lump all of your enemies into a single person you call Sybil. Yet we all know that you're the only person who has been proven to post with multiple names. But you persist with your obsession. How embarrassing for you. But how much more embarrassing for your newspaper. Has Greg Bean no sense of professionalism that he can read your postings here and on NJ.COM and on HowellNJ and that silly little site attacking ghosts and not realize you diminish his newspaper? Well, no matter, because if Greg Bean doesn't realize how little professionalism you have, I'm sure the publishers, who are bleeding advertisers because of you, will let Mr. Bean know that it's not his newspaper.

Anonymous said...

Greg Bean doesn't care because he knows I'm not Kathy, you foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, chicken shi$, lying dog, girly man. I added lying dog because you wrote:

"But, I have to move on, I have a life to live, so, I'll give you the last word"

You are pathetic and it's so easy to push your buttons.

Let me ask, are you going to email clownfoe? You did demand his email address. He gave it to you. Keep hiding behind the mask girly man

Anonymous said...

Here is a question. If the gunslingers blog is about ghosts and you claim it's written by a 5th grader, why do you keep having posts with the link deleted over at nj.com?

Does the first amendment only aplly to you?

Anonymous said...

there you go again, you paranoid, ugly, vicious hag. What makes you think that the person who posted here is somehow or other capable of or even interested in deleting posts on NJ.COM. My understanding is that NJ.COM will delete posts that violate the rules. They will not delete posts that don't. So if your posts are being deleted, Kathy, we all know why, don't we? You can't follow rules. You're like the rest of your gang in Manalapan. You think rules are for suckers and they don't apply to you. By the way, the first amendment only applies to government action. If you're going to report on government at least learn the very basics of government, you moron. No wonder you're a reporter for a coupon clipper. There isn't a reputable paper in the country that would hire you, is there, Kathy?

Anonymous said...

the post two above is a perfect example of Kathy's lack of credibility. Someone posts saying they aren't going to post again. Someone ELSE posts in response to her, and what does Kathy do? She assumes everyone is all the same person. That's EXACTLY how she reports and exactly how she posts on her dumba$$ Howellnj site and the other low class (just like Kathy) site where she spends her life attacking unknown posters. Wow, how sad she is. And even worse, she does all this while the rest of us are in church. She still doesn't get it. Well, let's see how that heart progresses.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that not only have Kathy's posts been removed from NJ.COM, but they keep blocking her for a few days at a time. You can't ask for someone to be blocked. That's done solely by NJ.COM itself when someone is violating -- seriously violating -- the rules. So while Kathy's still blaming ghosts for deleting her posts, it's pretty clear that NJ.COM is doing it on their own because they are reading her posts and realize she is a foul mouthed, vicious, ugly hag who writes exactly like she looks.

Anonymous said...

Ironically, the blog she hates and the blogger she'd probably like to have lynched is the same place where she has been posting, and unlike NJ.com, her poorly written posts aren't taken down.

Unlike Manalapan Town hall and NJ.com, the first Amendment is alive and well and living on this blog.

Anonymous said...

Posts are taken down because you hit the inappropriate post button and write threats to the blog administrator. If a forum posters name is deleted 3 times, it gests banned for a few days. Sybil waits until it's enemies has 3 posts in a thread, then hits the inappropriate button on itself, thus getting everyone in the thread banned. You know that, you foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, lying dog, chicken shi$, girly man.

You think you are clever, but you really have the mind of a child.

You are the same poster who said they were moving on. You know it and I know it.

I read on nj.com (before you had it deleted) that clownfoe gave you an email address, because you asked for it, then you ran away like the little girl that you are. If I was a woman, I wouldn't be upset at being called an ugly vicious hag, especially from a fat, balding, gay creep like you.

You gay creep.

Anonymous said...

Kathy get a life. You were funny for a while (all of us have been having a good laugh at your expense), but now it's just more of the same. You have a diseased mind and a diseased heart -- not just the virus. You're pathetically paranoid and filled with such hate you can't even think clearly. No, Kathy, not everyone is the same poster. That should be obvious to you, because no one other than you is going to sit by the computer all day just to argue with you. There are at least eight or nine different posters that are consuming your life. And that's because in your depravity, you are letting them. Shame on you. And no, Kathy, NJ.COM does not remove posts because they are "threatened." Don't believe me? Try it. Press the button about a post that is not a violation of forum rules, like yours, and see if they'll remove it just because you threatened them. You just love to make a fool of yourself, don't you.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why Kathy keeps referring to Andrew Lucas. Can anyone explain that? Frankly, I think it's offensive that she keeps referring to the fact that he's bald and she keeps calling him Gay. That's his own personal business, and it's just another sign of the disgusting person Kathy is.

Hey gay guy said...

To the two posters above, who are the same person: Judgement day is coming, you foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, lying dog (you claim you are moving on, but you wont), chicken shi$, girly man.

You sat on the sidelines during gym in high school, right homo?

In college, you didn't have to play sports, but the girls knew you were a homo anyway. I know I'm right.

Are you going to respond, or are you going to contiunue to be a little fag?

My guess is you weill continue to be a little fag.

Hey gay guy said...

To the two posters above, who are the same person: Judgement day is coming, you foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, lying dog (you claim you are moving on, but you wont), chicken shi$, girly man.

You sat on the sidelines during gym in high school, right homo?

In college, you didn't have to play sports, but the girls knew you were a homo anyway. I know I'm right.

Are you going to send an email, or are you going to contiunue to be a little fag?

My guess is you weill continue to be a little fag.

Anonymous said...

Kathy, did your mom ever wash your mouth out with soap? You really are white trash. And stop talking about Andrew Lucas. It's not nice.

Anonymous said...

I'm talking about you chicken shi$. You know it and I know it. Lots of talk, no action, you foul mouthed, hide behind a mask, lying dog (because you continue to whine like a baby, even though you said you were done), chicken shi$ girly man. Even the little skinny kids with asthma beat the bejesus out of you when you were a kid. You know it's true.

Anonymous said...

Kathy, you're really getting boring. No, actually, you've been boring. And it's a measure of your reporting skills that you have the same lame comment to make about everyone who posts, man or woman,and sometimes you seem to be talking to yourself, because there's not even a post that you're responding to. There's no point in the posters calling you deranged, I think people can see that for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I think the reason for Kathy's comments is pretty clear. It's classic frustration. No one reads her blogsites, she can tell that by the data reports she gets. In contrast, this blogsite is read by many people, including Kathy and just about everyone else at the News Transcript. No one reads her articles in the News Transcript, because they've figured out that the articles are rarely accurate. So she is jealous of datruthsquad and is trying to trash it up like she tried to trash nj.com before they began to ban her as soon as they see her posts. No one wants to read anything she writes, so she resorts to name calling and foul language, repeating the same thing over and over.

Anonymous said...

The only boring person boring here and on nj.com, is you yourself and you, chicken shi$

Anonymous said...

gee, there's a clever retort. Did you think of that all by yourself, Kathy?

Anonymous said...

Splain this to me Lucy. How did da Commissar-Mayor subject get side tracked by Kathy Barrata?

Anonymous said...

Do you think maybe she wanted to distract the attention from her boy? But you're right. With all the talk about blogsites supposedly violating first amendment rights -- which don't exist to protect people from blogsites -- the fact is the GOVERNMENT in Manalapan, for which the first amendment DOES apply, is seriously violating our first amendment rights. You know, Stu's case against Lucas, according to the documents on EFF, is a first amendment case brought under federal law, section 1983. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone deliberately challenge Klauber's rules at an upcoming meeting just so they can bring a 1983 action against him personally. Remember, when Spodak asked if he had the right to speak about anything he wants as a taxpayer for as long as he wants, McCarthy told him publicly that he could. That's the ruling of the township attorney sitting at the meeting. We all have the DVR of that. This could get to be fun.

Anonymous said...

You are flat out insane. Listen to yourself. Do you see kathy in your dreams, or do you just spend all day thinking about her? It's very creepy, if you ask me.

Anonymous said...

yep. she's definitely trying to deflect the attention away from her first amendment violating honey.

Anonymous said...

the funny part is, she was responding to a message that wasn't even about her. Talk about ego!!!!

Anonymous said...

blah, blah. blah. Don't you ever get tired of hearing yourself whine?

Anonymous said...

yeh, Kathy, don't you ever get tired of hearing yourself whine?

Anonymous said...

I know Kathy won't be reporting on this, but I found it on nj.com. If it's true, you can bet Moskovitz is ramping up his plans, and this could be the best thing for him and the worst thing for Manalapan. And the gang of three.

3781. 3rd party defendants
by GameObserve, 1/26/09 20:45 ET
Did Stu add a bunch of new third party defendants to the case the town brought against him? It looks like he added the Township Engineer, Former Township Attorney before Stu, an environmental firm, Mr & Mrs Dreyer plus two other attorneys including McCarthy. Not that I blame him, but is there no end in sight to this case?

Anonymous said...

I can't answer that prior question, but if I were Moskovitz that's what I;d do.

Lucass I think was just the beginning. I'd also bring in the Dreyers, because if they say the town knew prior to Moskovitz becoming town attorney, then the town is on the hook. They could also prove that the engineer did or didn't do their job, so the enginnering firm at the time could become a 3rd party too. I don't know who the prior township attorney was before him, but that person may be getting a subpoena too. If I were Moskovitz, I'd be handing out subpoenas like Halloween candy to all of Manalapan's political elite.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget lawyer-mayor Klauber's role in this. As a lawyer, he should have known what kind of case this was and said something to stop taxpayers from footing it.

First, Klauber says it wasn't going to cost us anything, and then admits $6,000, and now the Transcript and the Squad point out it's at least double. Personally, I don't think either is even scratching the surface. Lucas said in 2007 it was costing over $100,000 then, and that was over a year ago. And this for a cleanup that cost $10,500.

If this doesn't warrant an investigation by the state for fraud, nothing does.

Anonymous said...

Rail all you want. It won't change the outcome of the case. The case obviously has some merit if it has not been dismissed. Time will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Anonymous said...

so every case in court has merit? Do you really think judges just dismiss cases before there is discovery just because they "think" there's no merit? Don't you think the judge is going to want all the facts before him before he dismisses it? Or do you think he's as incompetent as the township committeepeople and township attorneys who are responsible for this case?

Anonymous said...

I don't think cases just get thrown out of court, but the way you and your cohorts talk about it, it clearly should have been thrown out. That's the point. As I said, time will tell.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I've never said the case should be thrown out, at least until the judge has the facts, so I'm not sure what you base your statement on, and I don't know of any of my "cohorts" who have ever commented on the case. From what facts we do have, there was an order of the court in 2004 that was followed by the township attorney in 2005. That doesn't seem like a very good basis for a lawsuit against the attorney in 2005, especially when they never sued the attorney in 2004 who was responsible for the order without accounting for the underground storage tank before agreeing to buy the property in the settlement/order. Some of this stuff is really common sense that even a lay person like me can figure out.

Anonymous said...

Agreed-time will tell. Time will also tell the true amount of taxpayers money that was spent on this entire lawsuit, from engineering fees, to legal bills. I am certain that Mayor Klaubers figure of $6,000 having been spent "only" on this case, will be grossly inaccurate. The real number is going to astound you!
That you can bet on.

Anonymous said...

so far it's already public knowledge that we've paid 6500 to one attorney (the so-called expert), 6500 to the insurance company attorney representing Lucas for the first amendment violation, 600 for "disbursements" for the attorney who is supposedly on a contingent fee basis, untold thousands to Caroline Casagrande who refused to itemize her bills (gee, I wonder why -- she's now the defendant in a malpractice case herself and has given up the practice of law). That's not counting the money that's been paid to McCarthy which remains a state secret. My guess is that the taxpayers have easily paid 25,000 for this 10,000 case and are likely to spend at least 50,000 more now that there are a total of NINE different parties in this 10,000 litigation. Is this the classic government waste story?

Anonymous said...

Don't blame me, I voted against Lucas and I voted against Roth, and I'm going to vote against Klauber. Blame the people who aren't paying attention or didn't go to the polls.

Bridge salesman said...

So you are saying that Klauber is a liar? He knows the bill is significantly higher than what he reports publicly, yet he lies about it in a public statement, because he doesn't think the truth will get out. That's what you are saying right?

That may be the stupidest thing you have said to date and you have said some stupid things.

However, if you really do believe your drivel, I have a bridge over the Sahara you might be interested in.

Anonymous said...

Duh. No one is SAYING Klauber is a liar. It's been proven. We now know for sure that when he publicly stated the case wasn't going to cost the taxpayers a cent, he was lying. We now know for sure that when he said the case was only costing the taxpayers 6,000, the taxpayers had ALREADY spent at least 9,000 in bills HE APPROVED IN PUBLIC. So we're not "saying" he's a liar, he's proven it! So your denying what there's already hard evidence of, is itself "the stupidest thing you have said to date and you have said some stupid things." That's why no one reads your articles any more Kathy. They know you're clueless.

Anonymous said...

Show the proof of his public statements and proof of the actual amounts. Then show proof of what the taxpayers are a actually footing the bills for. You can say whatever you want, but we need PROOF. If I'm Kathy, you are Stu, you annoying clown.

Anonymous said...

Kathy, you were AT the meetings when these bills were voted on, you dimwit. They were discussed at the meetings. Your own editor detailed them in two editorials. No wonder you can't get any articles right.

Anonymous said...

And the town has seen it on Channel 77, so that leaves the "reporter" as the only person still in the dark who needs proof. lol. What a piece of work.

Anonymous said...

From NJ.COM:

tonight's meeting was a circus just like last year. Klauber let Lucas attack residents AFTER they sat down, of course, like the cowardly little girl that he is. This year is just more of the same. Klauber's letter is already proven to be wrong. It's not even February yet and Klauber is already proving to be a total loser. He can't even control LUCAS, for heaven's sake. But the interesting thing is that apparently the residents are doing an investigation of Lucas' having work done WITHOUT getting permits while he was mayor IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW. This is something the county prosecutor should have done. Looks like the residents are going to have to do their job for them.

Anonymous said...

Klauber the Mayor, got to refute Rossman in the Opinion page of yesterdays Transcript. Too bad spell check was not used.
Klauber the mayor, is an officer of the court, wouldn't it be grand if he started to act like one at the public meetings? So far doesn't it see that his head is still up Roth's you know what?!

Anonymous said...

No it doesn't seem like that at all.

Anonymous said...

you're right, it doesn't seem like it. With his haircut, it just LOOKS like it.

Anonymous said...

Stooping to childish, personal insults. Very mature.

Anonymous said...

It's frustrating to you when someone does that, right Kathy. I mean, after all, in your mind, that's YOUR job.

Anonymous said...

I am not Kathy, but I imagine it's not nearly as frustrating as, say, dealing with the voices in your head.

Anonymous said...

Kathy, don't you think your time would be better spent at a sports club getting rid of your 56 inch hips, or perhaps getting your hair done for the first time since Nixon was in office?

Anonymous said...

You like the 56 inch hips, don't you creepy one. You can't have it though and it really drive you wild, doesn't it.

Anonymous said...

That's the funniest post we've ever seen. Only Kathy would think that ANY man would have the hots for her. She's fifty pounds overweight, has hair like a used brillo pad in an electrical storm, yellow teeth from a lifetime of smoking and a voice like a truck driver. Yeh, sure, the writer has the hots for her. lol.

Anonymous said...

You keep saying that. What do you have the above post saved in word, so you can copy and paste it? Well, you can say it all you want, but we all know you like those 56 inch hips. If someone with 56 inch hips won't accomodate you, you must be a real ugly bastar$ LMAO.

Anonymous said...

That's the funniest post we've ever seen. Only Kathy would think that ANY man would have the hots for her. She's fifty pounds overweight, has hair like a used brillo pad in an electrical storm, yellow teeth from a lifetime of smoking and a voice like a truck driver. Yeh, sure, the writer has the hots for her. lol.

Anonymous said...

and we all know that you are an ugly bastar$, or at least that was my impression when I saw a picture of you from a recent TC meeting.

Anonymous said...

That's the funniest post we've ever seen. Only Kathy would think that ANY man would have the hots for her. She's fifty pounds overweight, has hair like a used brillo pad in an electrical storm, yellow teeth from a lifetime of smoking and a voice like a truck driver. Yeh, sure, the writer has the hots for her. lol.

You really don't have any useful purpose in life, do you Kathy. I mean really, how many years has it been since you actually spent even ten minutes of some benefit to someone somewhere, rather than cackling over your silly posting that no one takes seriously. What a waste of a human life you are. I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a recognition that your life is a total waste from someone up high and a resultant recall.

Anonymous said...

I heard the someone up high refused to recall you. I think the exact words were "Let the ugly bastar$ slither around until it expires, then send it down south"

Talk about a waste of life, human, slug, or otherwise.

Anonymous said...

You really don't have any useful purpose in life, do you Kathy. I mean really, how many years has it been since you actually spent even ten minutes of some benefit to someone somewhere, rather than cackling over your silly posting that no one takes seriously. What a waste of a human life you are. I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a recognition that your life is a total waste from someone up high and a resultant recall.

Anonymous said...

I just came from the Howell police department. They're all laughing over there because they were slapping Kathy's son on the back and saying that he'll never get a promotion there unless he changes his name. He must be very proud of his mother. LOL.

Anonymous said...

^^^^ say:

Is this da bus that take me to school? They make fun of me.